SPOILER: Is Noal Jain Farstrider?

[Robert]

I did find it....

Book Nine Softcover Edition Pages 7-9. I'll pick out the important dialougue.

Talene Sedai:

"I foreswear all oaths that bind me."

--She swears the three oaths again, plus,

"I vow to obey all five of you absolutely."

Sairin Sedai: "Answer me truthfully. Are you Black Ajah?"

"Yes"

"Before we give her to Elaida..."

"Once you do that, we are all dead! Dead! Elaida is Black Ajah!!!"


In your face. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

[Silvion]

;D

[Tony]

But what does the rest say Bob? There is more, is there not?

[Quibly]

Continuing on, Bob...

Pevara growled, shaking her head in disgudt. "You know as well as I do if you believe a lie, you can say it for truth."

"And that is truth," Saerin said firmly. "What proof do you have, Talene? Have you seen Elaida at your...meetings?"

"They don't have meetings," Talene muttered sullenly. "Except the Supreme Council, I suppose. But she must be. They know every report she recieves..."

And I won't go on. But we know for fact that Elaida's Keeper (I can't remeber the name) is Black Ajah, so that is how they know of the messages. And the Keeper is ordering Elaida around. So hahahahaha Bob, you were wrong, Elaida hates the Black Ajah. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

[Tony]

IN YOUR FACE BOB! IN YOUR FACE! *bob crys *

[Robert]

Yeah, right, like I would cry. So what if Blacks order her around? That's as good as black. Who cares if she is only collaborating with them? Its as good as black.

[Tony]

Ah...no it isn't. She isn't Black. She is ORDERED to do things she does not WANT to do. She is not Black.

[Quibly]

Besides, she doesn't know that the people ordering her around are Black Ajah.

[Victor]

First off, I believe I remember that Elaida's Keeper of the Chronicles forced Elaida to obey her. Judging by the evidence, Talene here does not have any proof that Elaida is Black Ajah - other than the fact that "every report she receives reaches the ears of the BA" or something like that. That is because of the keeper.

I don't recall the exact passage, but I believe I remember Elaida ordering an Aes Sedai to scope out the BA. The thing is, I can't recall if this was in Elaida's point of view or not. If somebody is currently rereading the series, would they care to shed light on this fact?

[Quibly]

Elaida complains quite a bit about her Keeper (in her point of view), and in her point of view, I'm sure about this, it has her coming to the quarters of the Aes Sedai she orders to search out the BA. However, I think that when she actually orders that Aes Sedai, it is in the Aes Sedai's point of view.