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Post by Tony on Oct 10, 2005 19:41:23 GMT -5
I am for capital punishment. You kill someone, you get killed. And no humane ways of killing. No lethal injections or gas champers. I'm talking about a neck on a block and an axe coming down. I don't care if you're crazy or not, you die. Keeping all these prisoners soaks up tax money like a sponge. Kill the killers and be done with them.
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Post by Temanin on Oct 10, 2005 20:39:25 GMT -5
Hazaa! Off with his head!!
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Post by Tony on Oct 11, 2005 5:27:03 GMT -5
I forgot to mention something. If you kill someone in your own defence and it is proven that you did do it to defend yourself, you wouldn't get killed. That would be taking it too far.
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Post by Temanin on Oct 11, 2005 7:41:42 GMT -5
Enter's Florida's Stand Your Ground Act. There are going to be a lot of dead people in Florida...
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Post by RandomJester~RLV on Oct 11, 2005 8:38:20 GMT -5
capital punishment is the cheaper way to go, and I would have to agree with tony, but not on the method, also this may sound barbaric, (*has been watching conan XD*) but why not just install a gillotene, because swords require more than one stroke to do the job.
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Post by Tony on Oct 11, 2005 16:33:32 GMT -5
Not swords. Axes.
Bob mentioned that it costs more to execute someone than keep them in prison for life. He says it is all the paper work trying to prove he is guilty. Don't you have to do that anyway to send him to jail? I don't see what the problem is. If the prisoner is 100% guilty, he should be executed. Simple.
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Post by RandomJester~RLV on Oct 11, 2005 17:51:05 GMT -5
Still depends upon the strength of a person, a person and faulter, or miss calculate the weight of the axe. If a human did it, wouldn't they on some basic leave be just as bad as the killers? But that's not how I see it, I'm just offering up ideas. And I don't see how it's more costly to kill a person than to send them to jail. That is why I would have to sugest a machine do it, all you would have to do is press a button mark up were you want it to hit on the screen, and push another button.
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Post by Tony on Oct 11, 2005 18:30:49 GMT -5
I suppose. But then you could call the person who presses the button killers. But their killing is justified. They are ending a life because that life ended others. I know someone people will say that killing is never justified, but this isn't a perfect world. So it is justified.
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Post by Faceless on Oct 11, 2005 18:31:56 GMT -5
While I wholeheartedly agree with capital punishment, the problem stems from the fact of whether the person did it or not. If you 'prove' they murdered the person, but later find out that they were actually innocent, you can't really set them free, can you? I would like capital punishment to be reinstated, but with the condition that courts do as much as they can (and don't try to convince me that they already do) to pass the right judgement.
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Post by Tony on Oct 11, 2005 19:11:42 GMT -5
Yes. The convicted person would have to be %100 guilty in murdering someone or a group of someones.
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Post by Temanin on Oct 12, 2005 9:59:57 GMT -5
And that's where you get the appeals, as it's nigh impossible to prove guilt, beyond admission. And so you come to the justice system as we have it today. Funny how things work out like that, huh? ^^
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Post by RandomJester~RLV on Oct 12, 2005 13:15:07 GMT -5
This is why it would be great to live in the old times, back wen you could decapate a person in the name of justice and get away with it.
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Post by Tony on Oct 12, 2005 15:00:57 GMT -5
We need to develop a system to detech the truth. Something better than what we have now.
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Post by Faceless on Oct 13, 2005 0:46:39 GMT -5
Especially since right now it's mostly about how good the lawyer is, rather than the truth. Hard evidence is not easy to come by, or can be argued.
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Post by Tony on Oct 13, 2005 5:21:01 GMT -5
What about the issue of using the prisoners for labor purposes? Should we allow prisoners to go out and work? Doing this could lower the amount of taxes you have to pay because the government doesn't need to play prisoners. They are a source of free labor.
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