Temanin
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Post by Temanin on Jan 17, 2004 11:58:22 GMT -5
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Post by haxxor on Jan 18, 2004 21:50:03 GMT -5
So you don't believe in God huh? Eplain the fact that the remains of Noah's Ark was found on top of a mountain and there is actually more evidence suggesting a great flood that erased most life on the planet than a massive meteor colliding with earth. I see you proposing no facts to affirm the fact the God doesn't exist. In addition, Evolutionism isn't possible. Explain the fact that there is a 25,000 year gap in the theory of evolution. In fact, Darwin didn't believe his own theory. He was actually a Christian before he published his views, and on his deathbed, he said that he made the theory of evolution because he was afraid of hell.
What are you going to deny next? The fact that Jesus existed? One man spent 4 whole decades trying to disapprove the existence of Christ, but gave up while still writing the third chapter because there was too much evidence that Jesus actually existed. That man went on to become a Christian.
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Post by Temanin on Jan 18, 2004 23:36:36 GMT -5
Thank you. While it could have been presented in a better way, you hit the nail right on the head. There is just too much proof.
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Post by Tony on Jan 19, 2004 6:56:33 GMT -5
But have you really READ the bible. Not just read it, but understand what it says. It sounds like they want you to give all your stuff to the church and live a life of poverty. Thats not possible in today's society or any society before us. And if they found "evidence" about the Ark, why didn't they find it and dig it up? And if Jesus really was here, why isn't there any "evidence" that he was REALLY here. And when's the last time God helped anyone? It was like what? 2000 years ago the last time he used his godly powers. Why dosn't he help anymore? Why does it say in the Commandments that all other gods are false gods? What if those gods are real and ours isn't? Answer those questions.
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Post by Temanin on Jan 19, 2004 12:05:44 GMT -5
I have read the Bible and understood it. You are not to give all of your money away and live a life of poverty. 10% tithing to the church is all that is asked. All it is saying is don't get caught up with material wealth. Now the Ark. I have heard that some people believe that they know where it is, but I have never heard anyone actually claim to have found it for sure. As for Jesus, you must admit that it is very very difficult to prove that anyone was alive at that time, let alone one man. If this is the case, then how do you know that anything you read in any history book is correct? And lastly, the Commandment, "Worship no other god before me." Your question is completely unsubstantial. And because of this, I can't even fathom an answer. But I am glad that you consider God "our" God.
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Post by Tony on Jan 19, 2004 17:04:05 GMT -5
Then if you can't prove someone lived 2,000 years ago, then how do we know if he even existed at all?
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Post by Temanin on Jan 19, 2004 22:04:57 GMT -5
It's called the Bible. But answer this: can you prove that anyone really lived 2,000 years ago? I'm not talking an entire people, I'm talking one person. It is very very difficult to do such a thing. I think that the biggest proof is the Christian religion. It exists, and it has been dated back to the time that the Bible says it was created.
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Post by haxxor on Jan 19, 2004 22:34:08 GMT -5
In my humble opinion, it is harder to NOT believe in God than it is to believe in God. As an atheiest, what do you have to look forward to? A momentary lapse of time, and then death? As a Christian, you have nothing to lose.
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Post by Tony on Jan 20, 2004 6:46:17 GMT -5
If Jesus was such a great man, then their should be SOME evidence that he lived long ago. And as for death, how do you know if there is a Heaven or a Hell? And if there are there, where are they? Certainly not up in the sky or down below us in the dirt, thats for sure. But there is one thing I do belive in, reincarnation. Everytime you die, you are reborn in a new place, a new life, a new time.
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Post by haxxor on Jan 20, 2004 16:40:01 GMT -5
You believe in Karma, eh? That is where reincarnation came from, and If you believe in that, you would be a hypocrite not to believe in the Gods the Hindus make up daily.
There was a curtain in the temple in Jerusalem. It was such thick material that it would be difficult to cut with a sword. Now, the moment Jesus died, this curtain was TORN IN HALF, and remains hanging like that to this day. Argue against that.
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Post by Tony on Jan 20, 2004 19:48:01 GMT -5
Sure. Get me a REAL picture of that so called "curtain".
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Post by haxxor on Jan 20, 2004 23:16:34 GMT -5
and if i do you be like "that's fake"
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Post by haxxor on Jan 20, 2004 23:17:44 GMT -5
I didn't hear an answer to that. You seem to dodge the questions you don't like.
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Post by Tony on Jan 21, 2004 6:42:47 GMT -5
You can belive in reincarnation without beliveing in a god(s). I don't believe in any religion. If reincarnation came from the Hindus, good for them. It dosn't mean that I belive in their god(s).
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Post by haxxor on Jan 21, 2004 17:02:06 GMT -5
i think you're too hopped up on cherries to comprehend what you're saying.
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